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UPDATED: Lost and Found, A Video Salvaged from Censored YT Acct of mkbutterfly71

Copyright 2011-3011 By Chase Kyla Hunter, All Rights Reserved.

Salvaged Video from MKbutterfly71, located on 1.18.2011

Those who follow my blogs closely might recall Mkbuttefly71 as the “ex-Illuminati refugee” who broke her mind control programming in 2002, went public and opened a Youtube channel where she began revealing the long term agenda of the generational Illuminati families in bringing about the eventual Advent of the final Son of Perdition. Youtube abruptly closed her account right in the middle of our correspondence. This post reveals what she had disclosed to me thus far, and has some very telling screen shots of her videos which prove this woman knew what she was talking about. Below is a YT video by mkbutterfly71 which was salvaged by another YT user:

See also: http://www.youtube.com/user/CONTRARATIO#g/a

I think this new link I found on 01.20.2011 might be her new video channel: http://wn.com/Mkbutterfly71

Here’s the original post which has now been updated on 01.20.2011:

Map of the merovingian kingdoms
Mkbutterfly71 claimed to have been born into a Luciferian family of Merovingian descent. She knew a great deal about MK Ultra mind control programming used on Hollywood celebrities.

Copyright 2010-3010 By CK Hunter, Re-posts permitted leaving authorship, content and links intact.

Recently I was guided to find this young woman’s videos on Youtube, and although they are quite tedious to watch, she is struggling, it seems, to explain what she knows, and to try to warn people. The woman I refer to claims to have been born into a Merovingian Luciferian family of generational bloodline descent and in 2002 she claims she was able to “break” her Luciferian programming and begin the long and arduous path to Light, Love, Truth, God and hopefully, over time, her ultimate healing and salvation. Abbey created about a half dozen YT videos exposing future plans of the Luciferian Illuminati plans. In one of those videos she called attention to bizarre forms of Christian fundamentalism, and actually said that many mind controlled Hollywood celebrities like Beyonce, Katy Perry and others were raised in homes that were strict and severe in terms of fundamentalist beliefs. I struggled to understand the connection she was trying to make there. Abbey sounded some sort of foreboding warning about a huge New World Order Christian church and theme park which would spring up in Kentucky.

Here are my notes from watching her video on this, now deleted from YT:

“Middle America Church” card in the “New World Order” card game: [ Kentucky ] … the new world order card game has text that reads “they’ll never get it” The card has UFOS flying over the church, and this apostate church is to be built in Kentucky that is connected to the Tower of Babel theme park. Profound apostasy is to come to the american christian church in some manner through this church and theme park, according to Abbey.

01.20.2011=> A site guest today provided me with this link:


Abbey seemed to be saying that this “new church” and it’s accompanying theme park were part of a larger Luciferian plan to actually infiltrate and begin controlling American Christian churches. It all sounded pretty “out there” to me. Then came the link above. Abbey had talked about the Tower of Babel theme park, and said that Luciferian families were behind the whole thing. I really do not know what to think about this. So I am recording it as I recall the other parts of our dialogues before her YT channel was closed.

In the 12 days since I first located her Youtube channel, she contacted me, wrote me a detailed note, and then before I could reply, and thank her, Abbey’s Youtube channel was abruptly closed down. I don’t think that she is the one who closed her channel. I think Youtube did it. She had thanked me profusely for bringing attention and awareness to the videos she was making by writing about her on my blog. Why, then would she undermine that by closing her Youtube channel after I had written about it? Below is the note she wrote me right before Youtube censored her channel and closed it. Note the final sentence in the note:

Abbey’s Notes to me: Dec 29th 2010 in green:

[ Abbey’s Youtube account was closed after she wrote me this note, and I do not believe she is the one who closed it. Note  she thanked me at the end of her note “for bringing attention to her Youtube channel”. Why would she thank me, then close down her own YT account? Abbey had gone to considerable risk and trouble to create and post videos on her channel where she revealed some deeply troubling facts about events to come, culminating in a worldwide “false Messiah” manifestation which she clearly indicated would be “Maitreya“. I think Youtube closed her account under some higher directive, and I’d like to know why. She has a right to speak the truth about these generation Luciferian families. She would know. She was born into this. So here we have yet another example of the censorship, and “scouring” which is now occurring on the web, where dozens of documents, videos and other telltale evidence about the motives and long term goals of the elites is just disappearing.  Censorship is appearing online, and I wonder how long it will be before censorship of TV and radio will follow? – Chase ]

“Okay, I just checked your blog and yes, it is the blog I had watched a few videos on the Imam…am I writing that right? Probably not! I am not up on the Islamic faith the way I should be. But I found it very interesting.

Yes, my videos can be tedious. The problem is I was programmed. I am not sure if you are familiar with that. I grew up in a Luciferian home. I am absolutely overwhelmed with memories and I feel like a computer-literally downloading memories and information most of the time. It is technically called Monarch Programming. It means anti-Christ programming. Quite frankly, I get sick of the well-meaning, let’s hope, people on YT and blogs making it sound cool or like it isn’t what it really is. It needs to be called ‘ANTICHRIST Call Back Programming’. And that is the whole point of my channel.

There are literally thousands, maybe millions of people out there-mostly women, but a lot of men-mainly gay, but not all, that are programmed for the antichrist. They will be activated if not already at a certain point in time-very soon, I have no doubt to ‘work for’ the anti-Christ unknowingly. I believe this aligns with the scripture in the bible, where God talks about a ‘God given and allowed delusion.’ I know for a fact He gives everyone, no matter their circumstances EVERY chance to repent and wake-up.

Monarch Programming is easy to explain on a basic level, if you would like to understand it-I would suggest just googling it. The Nazi’s-specifically Joesef Mengele brought it over to the United States after the War. However, the hard part is explaining how to de-program someone due to the spiritual and demonic ties that are used in the programming and generational demonic ties. They are so, literally ‘in-breed’ due to Illuminati incestual inbreeding – that is not a rumor or a blown up fact. Illuminati-Luciferians ‘keep spirits’ in the family, for power-spiritually, in my families case the ‘spirit behind the eyes’ Moriah. (Moriah is generational Luciferians-going back to Babylonian times-it is a misconception that they are only Mormons) Moriah is also called “Moriah, conquering WIND.

They understand that ‘the ties that bind’ are demonic and the powers of this earth are ‘The Prince of the Air-Satan-Lucifer-hence The Wind- until Jesus Christ returns. Eugenics is very important also, for this very reason. It is important to note, though, that your lineage is HIDDEN from you. My family on both sides is from the Merovingian line. They truly believe this is the line of Cain(they refer to it as Kain and ‘the Serpent line’) as well as The Holy Grail‘ line.

So, my programming started breaking down in 2002, I tried to commit suicide twice and landed in the ICU for 5 days, 2 of those days I was in a coma. The person who programmed me, was dying at the same time. That is how programming works, you are supposed to have a suicide ‘program’ inside your system go off if your ‘master programmer’ dies. God spared me. But the years leading up to this past August have been touch and go. In August, I finally had a breakdown and I had a flood of memories and realized I was programmed. I almost killed myself. God saved me and here I am.

It is my God given duty to help others who are under the delusion, as I was to wake up in time. Antichrist callback is very real. The powers that be are counting on people thinking it is crazy. I am in the midst of major REAL and spiritual warfare right now, all prayers would be appreciated!

Thank you for bringing attention to my channel!

I will do the same for you, not that mine even compares, but I praise God that you have a [deleted], thank you!!!!!

May God keep and bless you.

Question….I take it you do believe Patel is the antichrist? Or what are your thoughts?”


Another YT user salvaged one of Abbey’s videos, and I located it this evening – 01.18.2011:

Update January 2011:  MKbutterfly71’s YT channel is still closed, so the link to her video below won’t work. But I have some stills I took and I am posting those below:

About the video still above:

Watch for logotypes that contain at least seven diverse images of types of ancient 4 pointed crosses, or other ancient occult / spiritual symbols. Many followers of Maitreya and the new age leaning Ascended Masters “peace cults” are already identifying their movements and organizations with the logotype of Maitreya, which has a Nazi swastika as the central hub, denoting world fascism disguised as a “peace movement”. Below is an example, comparing the logo of Maitreya to the final logo which appears in the web banner for MyPeace.tv:

Almost everything in Abbey’s YT videos [ I watched about half of them ]  I already knew, but there was one revelation that was both noteworthy and disturbing. It pertains to a terrible coming apostasy in the American christian churches that will come out of Kentucky, of all places. She maintains that a modern day “Tower of Babeltheme park will be constructed in Kentucky and some sort of new “church of middle America” that will play a significant role in the global apostasy of Maitreya and the UN sponsored one world religion.

mkbutterfly71 [ Update 01.02.2011 this Youtube account was closed down after Abbey wrote me the note above. I am assuming Youtube censored her account. She wanted to get her message out to the world. I do not believe Abbey closed her account. I think Youtube censored her. ]


mkbutterfly71 is very bothered by Raj Patel‘s books, the inner meaning of his name and had some interesting observations to make about him. Apparently she is not aware that astute Christian researchers have been following Raj Patel’s activities for some time now, and have been studying the heinously false “Share International” website with his fraudulent “Maitreya” antics for years.

Global fraudster Benjamin Creme has become a pathetic and almost comical character, literally reminding one of the silly snake oil salesman who performed fake seances in his traveling “carny wagon” during the dust bowl years of the American Great Depression. Creme has had the unmitigated gall to pass off out of focus photographs and images with camera straps dangling in the foreground as “spiritual manifestations” of Maitreya. He even had a male voice piped into the room who pretended to be Maitreya at a closed door event where someone surreptitiously came in with a small video camera and recorded the entire hilarious event.

Harry Houdini is turning over in his grave as I write this. He would have had a veritable field day as a debunker with Creme’s stupendously ridiculous old time “spiritualism” antics.

One of the things “mkbutterfly71” aka Abbey, also mentioned in her YT videos was the ominously foreboding late 1990s card game which I think was actually named “New World Order,” or it contained the phrase. This mysterious card game had a deck of full color playing cards which portrayed future events. Among the events portrayed are several images in which events which actually did take place or later appeared. I’m pretty sure the original card game came out in 1998. How could this be, unless somewhere on some level, behind the scenes, some of these events were actually planned far ahead, were orchestrated and then executed? I’d like for readers to see some of the still shots I took of these playing cards, which Abbey revealed in her videos:

Playing Cards from the 1998 “New World Order” Card Deck:

Are the events portrayed on these cards contrived from behind the scenes, or were the playing cards just THAT prophetic?

Don’t you think you know that answer? Consider what we all know now about the bizarre secrets which have been uncovered by the 9-11 truth movement, pertaining to 9-11. If the cards were illustrated, printed and manufactured into the card deck right before it went on sale in 1998, then someone somewhere is actually orchestrating many of the global events which we wrongly believe to be “acts of terror” or massive mechanical failures, such as BP Gulf Oil Spill, apparently “foretold” by the oil spill card. No card game can be that prophetic. Note the last card, titled: “Messiah.” I can only conclude that if other huge world events have been carefully contrived by global elites for whatever reasons, the worldwide “Messiah” event may be just as contrived. Christians have watched carefully as glossy CNN TV adverts pronouncing “Maitreya, the World Teacher” appeared in 2010, making every effort to dazzle people with the pronouncement. There is a level of manipulation going on here on a massive worldwide scale. I am begging my American friends and neighbors to wake up in time not be be duped by glamorous events advertising a false world “Messiah.”

Chase Kyla Hunter 2011, Late January

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Obama Forged Birth Certificate: Lawsuit News

Controvery continues to swirl around the legitimacy of Barack Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate. I began researching this story  a year ago, after I locatedan article on the Israeli Insider website in which their own experts seriously questionsed the hasty job that Factcheck.org did  in looking into the veracity of his birth certificate. One of the most suspicious things I ran into immediately was that not a single USA media outlet would touch this story with a ten foot pole.  I sat for days emailing every major media news outlet in the USA, and not one newspaper, magazine, reporter, or Tv station would look into the allegations of fraud regarding his birth certificate. It was the erriest “this cannot be America” feeling I have ever had. I actually privately wondered even then, whether or not we were already living in a police state without knowing it.

Here is the link I found last year on the Israeli-insider websitethat got me looking deeper into the forgery of Obama’s birth certificate. I wrote a whole page of RED FLAGS that I was finding out about Baack Obama at the time. By October the red flags were piling up so fast I literally could not keep up with them. Here is the link top that RED FLAG list on Obama.

Sections of Obama’s birth certificate from Hawaii have been redacted, or blacked out. This fact has been suppressed in all USA news media outlets. The document also clearly lacks a state seal, which must be present to verify authenticity. A state seal will show up in a photocopy, and in scans of a document.


PA based Attorney Phillip J. Berg deserves our support.  He has been pursuing justice on Obama’s fraudulent birth certificate for over a year now. On his website he has audio recordings from Obama’s Kenyan blood relatives that clearly state that Obama was born in Kenya.  They were there and they were eye witneses. Here’s the link. See http://www.obamacrimes.info/

Philip J. Berg, Esquire Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531 Cell (610) 662-3005 (610) 825-3134 (800) 993-PHIL [7445] Fax (610) 834-7659

Contact Phil J. Berg by email

Update: More Hard Evidence Comes to Light Regarding A Forged Obama Hawaii Birth Certificate in 2009

The birth certificate on Barack Obama’s website from the 2008 presidential campaign was forged using  Photoshop.

I was a graphic artist for over 20 years and I have used Photoshop for over 10 years. Graphics professionals know that digital documents which are altered will include a hidden time date stamp showing they were altered with photoshop. A youtube user has run a software analysis of Obama’s birth certificate, the digital version that appears on his site, and the hidden time date stamp appeared. There are numerous other irregularities about the digital document. One of the glaring red flags is that the state seal of Hawaii is simply NOT on that document. A valid birth certificate would clearly show the state seal, even in a photocopy or a scan.

Even more damning, the FED employee who doctored up a fake birth certificate for Obama’s website last summer has now come clean. He has confessed to what he did. See image and url below

Friday, July 04, 2008


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WTF? Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims. What the hell is going one here? It’s  a damn birth certificate. He is running for President. Release the hounds!

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider’s revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the diligent detective work of independent investigative journalists (led by JimJ and Texas Darling) and imaging professionals such as Polarik in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate The Daily Kos, a “progressive” blog site, and the Obama campaign’s “Fight the Smears” website, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance. Moreover, the blog and the campaign have been negligent in allowing the promotion of obviously forged and fake official documents together with the purported image of Obama’s birth certificate.

Go and look at the extensive research that was done — lots of screen shots too.

Previously at Atlas: The “Missing” Obama Birth Certificate Seal 6/29/08



Chad wrote me with these questions, apparently he received this from came from a USNA alumnus. It’ll be interesting to see how the media handle this

Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone.

US Law very clearly states: ‘. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.’ Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen is a fact.

Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack Obama’s birth, but-after-age-16.

In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . but that would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than living in Indonesia. This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.

Look, this is on the bottom of my list of things wrong with Oybomba but if he is ineligible …..

UPDATE: Crazie Annie in the comment section makes a good point — Can anyone verify the aspect of length of residency? If yay or nay let me know.

That notwithstanding, can we see the real birth certificate please? Enough already.

UPDATE: Apparently, the above is wrong. Larwyn consulted with legal and she clarifies the law for us: The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952 says:

“…a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person…” [Section 301e, {8 U.S.C. 1401} emphasis mine]

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961.  On August 21, 1959, Hawaii was admitted to the union as our 50th state, which means Barack Obama was born IN the United States.

Section 301a, {8 U.S.C. 1401 says “a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.  Obama could have been an anchor baby of illegal aliens and could still be President.

Plain and simple Barack Obama is a natural-born American citizen.

OK, so why the forgeries and all of this sturm and drang? Is this some diversionary tactic to keep us busy and off the scandals of  real import, Auchi, Rezko, Ayers etc.


Release the certificate.

Posted by Pamela Geller on Friday, July 04, 2008 at 03:05 PM in Obama’s Birth Certificate ForgeryWHITE HOUSE: THE RACE TO NOVEMBER | Permalink


» About Obama’s Citizenship from Rhymes With Right
I’ve seen it buzzing around the internet for several weeks now — suggestions that Barack Obama is not actually an American citizen at all. In the last 24 hours, I’ve seen that suggestion appear again, on two websites that I… [Read More]

Tracked on Saturday, July 05, 2008 at 12:47 PM


Israel Insider is still on this story and they make the point that the seal on the questionable certificate is not visible to the naked eye and to see it at all one must go through the equivalent of a cyber epsom salt bath.

Posted by: UnderzogFriday, July 04, 2008 at 05:27 PM

As a real forensic computer investigator (board certified, investigated thousands of cases, access to a full forensic computer lab, yadda yadda…) I decided to jump into the fray over the fake vs real discussion a week ago when a friend of mine challenged me to see what I could find (since according to him, the document was clearly a real one). He is what one would call a slightly rabid Obama supporter – he even has the tattoo to prove it.

First things first…I used the latest online KOS version (downloaded 6/29/2008) as it was supposedly the first released digital copy and the Decosta certificate from Israel Insider’s blog (also downloaded 6/29/2008) as an exemplar of a real certificate.

Of forensic interest on the KOS version is the EXIF metadata (encoded in the digital image data) showing that the KOS certificate was modified or created with “Adobe Photoshop CS3 Macintosh” on “2008:06:12 08:42:36”. Assuming the EXIF data was added after the document was scanned (assuming it is real) and the document modified only by placing a black-out section over the Certificate Number or if it was converted and saved for web use this would not be too unusual. The Daily KOS released the story on “2008:06:12 08:44:37” which would be 2 minutes after the graphic’s EXIF stamp was created.

Before I became a forensic geek I worked for [a herein nameless publicly traded company] that designed counterfeit detection hardware and software for the banking and retail industry. The company was very high profile and we received training from [a certain herein nameless department of the Federal government that knows a thing or two about counterfeiting] – but I do not claim to be an all around expert in Questioned Documents but after several years of working with them I do know what to look for to spot an obvious fake.

That being said…I too was able to see “something” that looked like a seal – however even using highly specialized software (specifically designed for law enforcement and forensic examiner use for cleaning up digital images and video) I was unable to recover anything more than what others have previously released using a basic find edges and modification of the contrast. Even when the background security paper pattern was removed there was not enough of a “seal” to view anything usable or verifiable which is a bit odd but still might be possible if the seal had been completely flattened out in the mail, etc. There is also a fold which runs vertically across the top of the certificate which is close to the same location on the Decosta certificate.

At this point I was beginning to believe the certificate was real until I resized and overlaid the Decosta certificate on top of the KOS version. All things being equal there was a 3.82% difference in the size of the KOS version vs the Decosta certificate – but again depending on the optical distortion from the scanner this too was explainable. But upon manually stretching them to match edge to edge I caught a glimpse of what I and apparently everyone else had simply not noticed. The security borders do not match. Literally. They are not even close to identical. For instance “Decosta” contains five 10 pixel wide “diamonds” per vertical row while the “KOS Obama” contains 2 to 2 1/4 36 pixel wide diamonds per vertical row. These differences can clearly be observed even with the naked eye although you may need to enlarge the graphics on your screen. Taking the measurements further – Decosta’s “Certification of Live Birth” heading is centered between security diamond pattern and is 762 pixels wide @ 0% angle while Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth” heading is not centered evenly between security diamond pattern and is 794 pixels wide @ 0% angle. Decosta’s “Any Alterations” footer is centered evenly between security diamond pattern and is 1244 pixels wide @ 0% angle while Obama’s “Any Alterations” footer is not centered evenly between security diamond pattern and is 1294 pixels wide @ 0% angle. I kept the comparative screen shots in case anyone wants them.

I am unable to explain the differences between the security diamond sizes and counts and the un-centered portions (meaning the diamond pattern ends on an odd pattern instead of even where it meets the edges of the header and footer boxes). Looking closer at the KOS certificate (magnified to 400%) clearly shows inconsistencies in the security border such as cut and paste marks and overlaying of the side borders where they meet the top and bottom. This effect is not observed in the Decosta certificate at any magnification. Another point of interest, removing the background security pattern did not remove the background area from underneath the security border on the KOS certificate. The color and hue values of the background pattern located and viewable through the security border are also not a match to the rest of the certificate background. I can not explain these discrepancies. I then noticed there were some indications that the background pattern had been duplicated and placed in various locations to clean up the document. Now at some point I just started to laugh and went out for a smoke and gave up looking for more.

I am convinced that the certificate is a fake (and not really a very good one) and I went into this with a completely open mind (something the Obamanationalists seem to have lost). I also have to say that everyone who has been looking into this federal crime (and it is a federal crime even if the certificates were never meant to be used for identification) have done a stupendous job and I wish they all worked for my lab. Talk about a winning team.

Posted by: techdudeFriday, July 04, 2008 at 09:19 PM


I can’t verify the aspect of length of residency. If someone can find the definitive “must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.” I will shout it from the rooftops.

Constitutional Topic: Citizenship

The Constitutional Topics pages at the USConstitution.net site are presented to delve deeper into topics than can be provided on the Glossary Page or in the FAQ pages. This Topic Page concerns Citizenship. Citizenship is mentioned in Article 1, Section 2, Article 1, Section 3, Article 1, Section 8, Article 2, Section 1, and in the 14th Amendment and several subsequent amendments.

If you’re going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must. To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States. To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

* Anyone born inside the United States
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Separate sections handle territories that the United States has acquired over time, such as Puerto Rico (8 USC 1402), Alaska (8 USC 1404), Hawaii (8 USC 1405), the U.S. Virgin Islands (8 USC 1406), and Guam (8 USC 1407). Each of these sections confer citizenship on persons living in these territories as of a certain date, and usually confer natural-born status on persons born in those territories after that date. For example, for Puerto Rico, all persons born in Puerto Rico between April 11, 1899, and January 12, 1941, are automatically conferred citizenship as of the date the law was signed by the President (June 27, 1952). Additionally, all persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, are natural-born citizens of the United States. Note that because of when the law was passed, for some, the natural-born status was retroactive.

The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 USC 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was “declared” to be a United States citizen. Note that the terms “natural-born” or “citizen at birth” are missing from this section.

In 2008, when Arizona Senator John McCain ran for president on the Republican ticket, some theorized that because McCain was born in the Canal Zone, he was not actually qualified to be president. However, it should be noted that section 1403 was written to apply to a small group of people to whom section 1401 did not apply. McCain is a natural-born citizen under 8 USC 1401(c): “a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person.”

U.S. Nationals

A “national” is a person who is considered under the legal protection of a country, while not necessarily a citizen. National status is generally conferred on persons who lived in places acquired by the U.S. before the date of acquisition. A person can be a national-at-birth under a similar set of rules for a natural-born citizen. U.S. nationals must go through the same processes as an immigrant to become a full citizen. U.S. nationals who become citizens are not considered natural-born.

Posted by: crazieannieFriday, July 04, 2008 at 10:55 PM

I went through all of this when my kids were born in the early eighties overseas and to a non-American mother (at the time). If Obama was born in the U.S. all of this is moot — he is a natural-born citizen. If not, based on what I have read of the age and whereabouts of his mother, I don’t think he is one based on the law in effect at the time of his birth (the same law when my kids were born). I had all of this explained to me by consular officers when getting what are known as “Certification of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the USA” documents.

I had friends and acquaintances in similar circumstances except that the American parent did not meet the time test as mentioned in the post. Their kids did NOT get certifications of birth as my kids did and, in fact, had to get visas and/or temporary minor passports to enter the U.S. A couple of them were in very difficult situations because unlike the U.S., most countries do not grant citizenship to children in their countries except via parentage. They, in effect, had no legal citizenship (e.g. my boss 25 years ago: American father who failed the U.S. residency requirement, Peruvian mother and child born in Germany; the child had no German parentage and thus no citizenship, and wasn’t American by birth and thus no citizenship).


Unfortunately I doubt I have any of the old documents, but the “must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16” sounds like the law in effect when my kids were born. It is my understanding that it was changed a number of years after their births to a shorter period of time which fits in with the rules you quoted. As I previously stated, I personally knew several people (children at the time) who were not given U.S. citizenship at their birth. My boss (who I previously mentioned) moved to Germany when he was 18 or 19, so he was definitely in the U.S. more than one year (but less than five) after he was 16.

Posted by: Don MiguelSaturday, July 05, 2008 at 03:25 AM

There is a problem with your analysis.

Provided Obama was actually born in Hawaii, it doesn’t matter if EITHER parent was a US Citizen. After all, the Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution would have settled the matter quite definitively in favor of his citizenship.

And while you are correct about the statutory language in question, it applies only to those born abroad, not to those born in the United States itself.

Obama can settle this issue very nicely by releasing a copy of his actual birth certificate, as completed at the hospital where he was born and filed with the state of Hawaii in 1961.

Posted by: Rhymes With RightSaturday, July 05, 2008 at 09:00 AM

If Obie was born in Hawaii then he meets the Constitutional requirement for citizenship.

If he was born in Kenya, as many suspect, then he is disqualified under the provisions of the citizenship laws in effect at the time of his birth.

All of these antics and the ensuing odd behavior over such a basic issue leads me to believe that they are concealing something.

What that something is remains unclear at the moment but my intuition tells me that something’s up.

Obie needs to step forward, man up, and come clean.

Of course, that would be the first time we got a truly straight answer out of him.

Posted by: Aye ChihuahuaSaturday, July 05, 2008 at 09:31 PM

I think the answer is clear: Obama was born on Aug 4 1959, not 1961. This would make him a non-citizen and ineligible to run.

Posted by: pteranodonSunday, July 06, 2008 at 05:06 PM

If HUSSEIN O’bummer was born in 1959 that would make his mother 16 – unlikely. Regardless, he would have become a US citizen by default when Hawaii became a state. The fact that the original hospital certificate is not available (or won’t be shown) is the obvious problem. I doubt he is a citizen and is most certainly a muslim. Once a muslim……

Posted by: johncuriousThursday, July 10, 2008 at 08:13 AM

Friday, August 22, 2008


As Donald Luskin said back in 2005, “it’s a sad commentary on the state of public discourse when you have to fact-check FactCheck.org“. And the Economic Policy Institute  wrote on a different matter, “ How Factcheck.org got it wrong”.

So, I wouldn’t jump on the Annenberg Fact Checker’s assessment of Obama’s birth certificate certification. But if it keeps Hillary off the ticket, I’ll pipe down. How curious, a zillion experts looking at the same scan for months on the Obama’s Fight the Smears website (after the KOS scan was an admitted forgery)……….. they waited so long and then presto!

I mean, really. The man just comes back from Hawaii and voila! A new and different COLB.

Annenberg Factcheck.org is playing their part :

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

My tech expert says, “look very carefully at the document. It is the same one “scanned” but the scan is not an exact match. Too much border on the short left side now and too much at the bottom. “Extra paper”. Could it have been a bad scan where the side and bottom were cut off? Perhaps. But now look at the border…it now has a pretty hatch pattern inside another hatch pattern but still has a weakline flaw. Odd that all did not show on a 300dpi scan and still odd there are no matching borders found any place else. I guess we know what Obama was doing in Hawaii on vacation. It also looks like it was printed in an inkjet not a laser (bad pix hard to really tell without seeing it in person and using a 20x loop to see the printing).”

I mean really. The man just comes back from Hawaii and voila! A new and different COLB.

OT: Annenberg and Obama have a history ……….. this from the Stanley Kurtz article Chicago Annenberg Challenge Shutdown? A cover-up in the making?

When Obama made his first run for political office, articles in both the Chicago DefenderHyde Park Herald featured among his qualifications his position as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation where Ayers was a founder and guiding force. and the  Obama assumed the Annenberg board chairmanship only months before his first run for office, and almost certainly received the job at the behest of Bill Ayers. During Obama’s time as Annenberg board chairman, Ayers’s own education projects received substantial funding. Indeed, during its first year, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge struggled with significant concerns about possible conflicts of interest. With a writ to aid Chicago’s public schools, the Annenberg challenge played a deeply political role in Chicago’s education wars, and as Annenberg board chairman, Obama clearly aligned himself with Ayers’s radical views on education issues. With Obama heading up the board and Ayers heading up the other key operating body of the Annenberg Challenge, the two would necessarily have had a close working relationship for years (therefore “exchanging ideas on a regular basis”).

UPDATE: Texas Darlin makes some very good points here:

Interesting, indeed. I have the following questions for Factcheck. Since they are so on-top of this story, I’m sure they have answers:

1. What took the campaign so long to show an actual document to the media?

2.  What other media did the campaign offer to show the COLB to, and have any others seen it and touched it, handled and photographed it? Or only Annenberg-owned Factcheck?

3. Why did the campaign go to such trouble to digitally black out the certificate number when it could have stuck a piece of solid black tape over the number, especially since, as Factcheck reported, they were in such a hurry?

4. Why did Janice Okubo tell a reporter that the COLB was ordered “this month” (June 2008 ) if it was ordered in June 2007?

5. Since Factcheck is seemingly in the business of helping the Obama campaign fight smears, did Factcheck ask the campaign about the rumor that Republicans are holding Barry Soetoro’s birth certificate? If so, what was the campaign’s response? If not, why not?

And finally…

6. How did end up getting this access? Did they ask the campaign, or did the campaign offer to show it to Factcheck? The article is mysteriously vague on that point: “FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate.”

UPDATE: And one last thing (uh, probably not), all of the points that the Annenberg Fact Checker’s cite (below) were not the basis of the argument put forth by my digital forensic expert (his report here):

Corsi isn’t the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:

  • The birth certificate doesn’t have a raised seal.
  • It isn’t signed.
  • No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
  • In the zoomed-in view, there’s a strange halo around the letters.
  • The certificate number is blacked out.
  • The date bleeding through from the back seems to say “2007,” but the document wasn’t released until 2008.
  • The document is a “certification of birth,” not a “certificate of birth.”

The contention made at Atlas is far more technical and indepth.

Posted by Pamela Geller on Friday, August 22, 2008 at 01:09 AM in Obama’s Birth Certificate Forgery | Permalink


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